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Designing with Web Standards (2nd Edition) (Paperback) (平装)
 by Jeffrey Zeldman


Category: Web design, Computer & internet
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MSL Pointer Review: This book documents the jagged history of web design's hows and whys, while teaching you the techniques you'll need to transition your thinking away from obsolete markup.
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  • A reader (MSL quote), USA   <2007-07-03 00:00>

    I believe that it is a lot easier to read a book that is written in a very conversational style. Jeffrey Zeldman writes this way, and provides a light-hearted yet expert view of Web standards.

    Zeldman goes into detail explaining the rise and fall of version 3 and 4 browsers. It's a really interesting look at how HTML exploded from a dozen or so tags in its beginnings to the <BLINK> tag and others that would water down HTML's original purpose.

    Now that we have arrived at a point in time where we can write pages that have the hope of looking the same in Netscape/Mozilla, Opera and Internet Explorer, it's great to have a manual describing how to do so. This book is that very manual. If you are new to Cascading Style Sheets (CSS), this book will convince you to use CSS. Then the book will educate you.

    I think the fact that this book manages to convince people to use CSS and other standard methods will really cause a wave of change across the Web. Call it a return to HTML's purpose. I call it "television is best seen on TV, not in a Web browser". This volume book-ends very nicely with "Eric Meyer on CSS". Buy both books and you'll soon be on the road to being an early adopter of "The Right Way".
  • Michael (MSL quote), USA   <2007-07-03 00:00>

    Jeffrey Zeldman, godfather (in the non-scary, non-bloodbath sense) of the web design industry, returns to the book-publishing fray with his latest tome, the extremely usable & well-written "Designing with Web Standards".

    For quite a long time most web designers have treated standards compliance with the same respect as Microsoft enjoys on Slashdot. They are nagged by an annoying voice in the back of their heads that scream, "design for the future" - but drown it out with the client's cries of "design for the past" and their own misapprehension that "everything should be pixel-perfect in Netscape 4".

    They hack, triple-test, pet every single line of carefully-crafted HTML, spend countless days ironing out every obscure browser bug known to man, and then pull their hair out in large knots when a new browser comes along & everything breaks.

    If you are one of those people (I certainly used to be), perhaps it's time to stand back & realize the obvious: standards compliance is the only way of future-proofing your sites. It's the only way of making sure that what you build today won't break tomorrow.

    And fortunately for you mr. Zeldman is here to take your hand, show you where you went wrong, and guide you gently into this brave new world.

    It's foolish to claim that standards compliance can solve all the problems of web development - but it's equally foolish to continue living in the past when you have an excellent book like this that can make your professional life so much easier.
  • Bryan (MSL quote), USA   <2007-07-03 00:00>

    First of all, this is an excellent book. It is well thought out, well written and provides lots of great instruction and examples. Zeldman does a wonderful job making his case for Web standards and the evolution of the WWW. But that is also the biggest problem with this book. Zeldman makes his case - and it is a great one. I'm convinced. But then he makes it again. And again. AND AGAIN. We're fully 150 pages into the book before we actually start learing HOW to develop with standards. Now, I understand that a case needs to be made. I'm one of those "old school" designers that has been in this biz for years and years now. I'm a master of all those HTML tricks that are now taboo in StandardsLand. He was preaching right to me and I for one needed to be preached at. My methods are out of date, my skills need to be honed. No problem, happy to convert. I'm sold. So cut to the chase! Zeldman's passion is clear and his wit is sharp. It really is an excellent read. But I also think he doesn't trust his reader enough to understand his points quickly enough. The initial 150 pages could probably be boiled down to 50 or 75 with the same result, leaving more room for instruction and how-to. Still, highly recommended!
  • A reader (MSL quote), USA   <2007-07-03 00:00>

    'Designing with Web Standards' by Jeffrey Zeldman is a book about the use of standards in creating websites. Jeffrey Zeldman is a very well known web designer that manages the several very popular design websites. He also co-founded the Web Standards Project to persuade browser makers to comply with standards. I've been creating websites using HMTL since the early 90's and wanted to learn more about CSS, XHTML and so I picked up this book.
    This is not your traditional tutorial book - In fact, a majority of the book is spent discussing the topic of standards, which gives this book an almost academic feel. In spite of that, I still really like this book and found this book extremely helpful is designing standards compliant websites.

    In particular, the chapter on XHTML is well written and does a great job in explaining everything from DOCTYPE, HTML tags case, closing tags, empty tags and encoding valid XML tags such as < > and &. The chapter on structure combines CSS and XHTML to provide a complete solution for websites. I had used DIV's before but never really understood how and what they were and what was the difference between id and class. After reading this chapter, I feel like I have a very good understanding on the principles of layout and CSS.

    I love all the examples in the book, especially in the latter part of the book where you work through different layouts using the technologies you just learned about. I also love the section of the book that lays out and documents all the deficiencies and bugs of existing browsers and how to work around those issues.

    If you want to create websites that work in every browser, load quickly, consume less bandwidth and still be visually and functionally attractive, you need this book.
  • Rossen (MSL quote), USA   <2007-07-03 00:00>

    This invaluable volume was my handbook and tutorial when making WikiDiction. Out of several dozen web-design books, this one has done more to shape my approach to web design, and given more practical tips and tricks, than any other single book. Thank you Jeffry. The Web is a better place for the work you have done.
  • Kenneth (MSL quote), USA   <2007-07-03 00:00>

    The best aspect of this book is the fact that not only does it teach you the theories and principles, but also how to apply them in a real world environment and even when you should break the rules. The book is very well written, entertaining and at times humourous, which is rather rare for a book dealing with the topics of Web Standards and accessibility, but just as Zeldman proves that sites utilzing Web Standards can be visually appealing, he also proves that writing about such topics does not need to be dry nor full of techno speak.
  • Bernard (MSL quote), USA   <2007-07-03 00:00>

    It would be an understatement to call this book and eye opener for me. Jeffrey Zeldman makes a compelling case for adopting web standards and gives plenty of immediately useful examples of how this can benefit anyone.

    I don't know how the adoption of standards by the major browser providers passed me by, I just wish I had read the book sooner.

    I'll be using many of his ideas and I expect to see pages that are easier to modify and maintain, with less strain on our servers.

    I also find the authors frequent comments on his blog very informative and/or thought provoking. I highly recommend the book for anyone involved in site design or development (for public consumption or for intranets).
  • Jason (MSL quote), USA   <2007-07-03 00:00>

    Jeffrey Zeldman, the cooler older brother of the internet, has written a new book called Designing With Web Standards. If you are anything like me (that being a design nerd who can write a few lines of code that may or may not work), this book is for you. It would be an understatement to say that this book is useful and informative. Have you ever wondered what all the hubbub is with XML and Style Sheets? DWWS will teach you how to make your site and your clients' sites accessible to every man, woman and child, as well as how to make your pages backwards, forwards, and sideways compatible. Zeldman shows you step-by-step how to put your site on a diet and trim unwanted k's from your pages, and demystifies the current state of and design practices for the web. For me, the seed has already been planted. I am going to have trouble coding things with <font> tags anymore. Once I know ways to make things better and faster, it pains me to do them the old way. I can't wait to redesign and recode sites with some valid XHTML and CSS action. This book should be on your desk. So go get it already.
  • Simon (MSL quote), USA   <2007-07-03 00:00>

    Jeffrey Zeldman makes a very compelling case for designing using web standards. None of the technologies he talks about are particularly new, yet designers and developers have been slow to embrace them.

    Zeldman takes us on a brief history lesson to give context to the good stuff that follows. Real world examples are then used to demonstrate the power and simplicity of using standards to create web documents. With clear explanation, backed up with learned commentary and sensible compromises, Zeldman introduces the reader to XHTML and CSS. Forward-thinking techniques, such as rules-based design, show the reader how easy it is to create documents that work in any web device, not just Internet Explorer.

    This book will be useful to any designer or developer who wants to make their life an awful lot easier, and is an excellent partner to Eric Meyer's "Eric Meyer on CSS," by the same publisher, where more of the techniques discussed in the book are explored.
  • A reader (MSL quote), USA   <2007-07-03 00:00>

    Jeffrey Zeldman presents a thorough, concise, witty and practical treatise on the value of incorporating standards into web design. If you are still marking up web documents with tables, invisible spacer images, bloated browser detection and OS-dependant scripts, this book is guaranteed to change your perspectve. You will be shown a clear path to creating lean, attractive content that is both backwards-compatible and forward-looking.

    Highly recommended!
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